There are a couple of things that could derail my plan, the first being unexpected expenses that will require me to re-fund my emergency fund any time money is used for emergencies. And I know they happen. Just a few months ago, we had to cough up an auto insurance deductible. I expect appliance repairs will come around at some point also. Our truck needed a new $100 plus sales tax battery unexpectedly just this month.

We’re at a point where we still don’t have the funds to fully fund any repair and maintenance categories in our budget. Frankly I’d rather not anyway. I’d rather just have a larger emergency fund for those kinds of things, but that’s just me.

I’ve been reading a book that I’m find quite eye-opening when it comes to organization and planning, and I’ve decided there’s definitely a point where we reach diminishing returns on our investment in pre-planning and over-organizing everything, including finances. A Perfect Mess is all about how some disorder and mess can benefit our lives… I agree.

My debt repayment has been drastically slowed because I’ve cut my work hours. I went from working 3 days each week to 2 days each week, and I’m working towards quitting my job entirely and staying home to improve my family’s home life.

I have NOT accumulated any additional debt. My cash based living experiment continues to work well, but as yet, I won’t be able to actually quit my job for quite some time. I’m down to about 16 – 20 hours a week. I want to go to about 11 hours a week, but the budget just won’t allow for that yet so I’m still picking up some extra work hours from home through the week. (I work from home about 50% of the time for my job as it stands right now.) The 11 hours would allow for 2 days of work while the kids are at school.

So that’s where I’m at.

There is some bad news in all this. Last year my husband was receiving a miscellaneous payment from his employer that related to a health insurance rebate of some kind. That payment stopped on the first January 2010 paycheck. I knew it was only for the one year, but when I had reduced my hours from 3 days to 2 days, this money helped cover that gap. Now I don’t have that nearly $200 per month of income and it’s seriously hurting my budget.

Steps I’ve taken to ease the crunch

Got rid of caller ID and call waiting = $6 per month savings

Turned off the data package for my smartphone (I don’t have cell service at home anyway so the only place I could use this was when I was taking the kids to and from school so this wasn’t a big hardship for me) = $31.00 per month savings

Downgraded my satellite TV package = $22.00 per month savings

That’s $59.00 per month and I’m still looking for other cuts I can make.

I’m going to reduce my grocery budget but it won’t be by much, because I’ve always been pretty efficient with that anyway.

I’m about to read “America’s Cheapest Family” and see what tips they have but I don’t hold out much hope that I can reduce things any further than I already have.

Unfortunately, to pay off my debt faster, the only choice for me is more income, and that’s not on my agenda just yet. I need to take care of family and home first. However, I am still paying as much as possible and still have payoff of debt as my overriding financial goal.

Come bonus time for my husband (and he’s been assured that bonuses are coming) I plan to use that to pay off as much as possible of the only credit card debt I still have.

After having my husband’s car die a horrible death a couple of weeks ago and having to buy another one (because my husband is/was positive this car could not be fixed for less than it would cost to buy another car) it occurred to me that I might just be going about my debt snowball all wrong.

First, let me say that we replaced the dead car with a more expensive car, at $8,990 plus tax, title, etc. The loan ended up at $10,589. However, we got a 2008 automobile that still has warranty, and we’ve agreed that our goal is to make this car last 10 years, so we can get it paid off in 5 years (if it takes that long, and it might) and have 5 more years to save for another car.

Several things about this purchase bothered me though, and the main one was my husband’s inability to separate out the fact that affording payments does not mean you can afford the loan.

The thing is, when you have a spouse who believes you’re able to afford something just because you can make the payment, you really have to watch out when you start paying off debt.

As one payment falls to the debt snowball, I worry that my husband will want to buy something else to take its place. (History shows a track record for this and I’m not one to argue with history.)

I’m sure I’m not the only person trying to deal with a somewhat uncooperative spouse who just doesn’t seem to get it.

I’ve discovered that there might be a way around the fighting and worrying. It’s less like a row of falling dominoes and more like the collapse of a house of cards, but it just might work.

Don’t pay off your smallest debt first. Pay off the debt with the longest term first (with the possible exception of your home loan, depending on how much benefit you see from the tax-deductible interest).

By choosing to pay off the debt with the longest term, you eliminate the worry that freed up cash will be diverted from your debt snowball and used to make another payment for something your spouse wants to buy.

Without true cooperation from your spouse, it’s unlikely you’ll ever be truly debt free, but that doesn’t mean you can’t try. I certainly intend to do my best at it!

In the future, I will be able to spend less time worrying about what will happen when we get some of our debts paid off and we have cash available to make bigger extra payments.

Until now, my strategy has been to pay off some relatively short-term debts that should be paid off within the next year or so. However, I’m already hearing rumblings from my husband about that boat he wants to upgrade to—and how wonderful it would be if we had just a little extra money so he could make the payments.

Since I have no intention of letting this happen (if he really wants it, he’ll have to find a way to start saving for it!), I have begun to rethink my debt payoff strategy.

My camper has a higher interest rate than many of my other debts and a relatively low payment (about 1.1% of the principal). I intend to start putting any extra payments I can make toward it, instead of the other shorter-term, higher payment credit card (about 2% of the balance).

This way, I stop the “we have enough for a new payment” problem before it even becomes a problem.

Unlike with a traditional debt snowball, where you use freed up cash to pay extra on other debts in a rollover fashion, where your debts begin to fall like dominoes, this method will pay off your debts with the shortest terms on their regular schedule. This means that you’ll see more debts fall at about the same time.

Basically, I can put off the obvious freeing up of cash by saving on future interest, reducing the term of the debt by paying more principal each month, and having several debts paid off at around the same time frame. Paying extra on the camper loan should allow me to knock down 4 loans at about the same time.

I also believe this will give my husband the encouragement to save that he needs when we finally have free cash, because he will be able to “see” how possible it will be to save for a large purchase when we have so much cash freed up.

That’s the plan, anyway.

This might reduce the motivational boost I would get from paying off smaller debts faster, but it just might get me significantly closer to my goal of paying off as much debt as possible without having to worry about my husband eyeing the extra cash!

Today, I feel good about the decision, but last night, I really struggled.

My problem is in defining at what point I should stop throwing every extra cent I have at my debt so that I can live a reasonably balanced life, buying what I need and occasionally, what I want.

Yes, you could take your lunch to work every day and save a ton of money. But do you have to, just because you’ve decided to live a cash based life and get completely out of debt?

Should you feel guilty if you buy lunch with cash that you could have spent on paying down debt?

If you broke your camera and needed a replacement, should you not buy the camera because you could use that money to reduce your debt even further?

Besides, can’t one consider a family camera a necessity these days? If you want photographs of your family, you’re not going to find them cheaper at a photographers studio than those you’ve taken on your own!

Last night I finally decided that there are limits to my dedication. I want to pay as much as possible on my debts, but only after deciding on a reasonable amount to reserve for family use.

These “rewards” for staying within budget and paying down debt at the predetermined rate I’ve set are deserved and necessary to my future momentum.

Deserved because I am dedicated, but I don’t know if I can sacrifice all the joys that come with living within a fixed budget and knowing you have some extra money to play with every so often.

Necessary because if I continue to adjust my debt payments every time I have a few extra dollars, I worry that I’ll burn myself out of never spending any of that extra money on things that can make life a little easier or more enjoyable now.

This month, I spent $99.99 on a camera, and reserved $75 for the family and extra entertainment this month. (I include dining out in that category also.) As for debts, I chose to pay my normal debt payments, which is the budgeted amount I previously set for paying down my debts.

So, ultimately, I decided to stick with my budget and use my extra money for other things, because if I had been outside my budget this month, I would not have had this extra money.

What about you? Do you think I made the right decision? Do rewards help or hurt your progress to get debt free and live a cash life?

No matter what decision you ultimately make, you’ve had to make a tough choice.

These are actually quite minor choices when compared to the choice I’m talking about today.

I’ve been struggling with the problem of how to decide what’s most important to me and my family: pay down debt or save for emergencies.

I realize how important it is to have a substantial emergency fund to tide you over when you’re trying to get out of debt. But I want to make the most financially beneficial decision I can make for my family, and one pat answer doesn’t seem to fit all situations.

Assuming you’re disciplined enough to follow through on any particular plan you make, you have options other than the standard idea of saving up $1,000 before you start paying off debt (Dave Ramsey’s famous “baby step 1”).

Assuming you have $1,000 of credit available for use in an emergency, and assuming your interest rates on the cards where you’re carrying a balance are on the high side, you can save plenty of interest by paying off debt before you start saving up an emergency fund.

However, that said, there are some things to take into consideration.

1. A cash emergency fund can be used in situations where credit might not.

Say you need to rush your dog to the veterinarian after he’s hit by a car. Your local vet is cheaper and closer, but he doesn’t take credit. A cash emergency fund might be the thing that gets your dog the care he needs for a price you won’t mind paying in the long term. This situation might be a stretch, but then again, I live in a rural area and I know several vets who don’t take credit cards and who need to be paid when services are rendered. The closest “big” city is an hour away.

The way I’ve found to get around this is to make use of the cash I have put aside for my budgeted irregular expenses. Although this cash is technically already assigned a task, in a pinch, it gives me cash reserves to tap into in the event of an emergency where only cash will do.

2. If you can’t repay the emergency expenditure quickly, your emergency will end up costing you interest, which you could have been paying toward your debt.

In simple terms, if you save up an emergency fund in an account that compounds daily at a 1% annual interest rate instead of paying on a debt that compounds daily at a reasonable 7% annual interest rate, you’ve lost 6% of your money to interest payments.

However, if you then have to charge something on a credit card because of a true emergency and it takes you 6 months to repay the money, your emergency has cost you 3.5% more than it would have if you’d paid cash.

Here’s what it looks like in dollars, roughly.

$1000 in the bank + $10 interest earned if you save a cash emergency fund

$1000 less debt + $70 interest saved if you pay debt first

$1000 debt + $35 interest paid if you have an emergency that would have used all your emergency funds and you’re able to repay within 6 months. If it takes you 12 months, you’ll pay $70 interest.

However, if you don’t have a card with a relatively low interest rate, there’s another possible downside. The interest paid on a card with a relatively high rate could be damagingly high.

You could get into a cycle of debt that takes many more months to pay off than you might ever have saved by paying debt before saving for emergencies.

If you pay late, you could be subject to high penalties, usually starting around $39, and your interest rate could jump even higher.

Net savings by choosing to pay off debt instead of saving for emergencies

Here’s a summary of the financial impact of one choice over the other.

Best case

The best case assumes you have no emergencies while you’re paying off your debt.

Pay off debt: Net worth up by $1,070

Save for emergencies: Net worth up by $1,010

Worst case

The worst case assumes you have an emergency that uses your entire “fund” and that you take 12 months to repay your emergency charge.

Pay off debt: Net worth down by $70

Save for emergencies: Net worth up by $10

Somewhere in the middle

Somewhere in the middle assumes you take 6 months to pay off your emergency charge.

Pay off debt: Net worth down by $35

Save for emergencies: Net worth up by $10

My decision

All that said, I made my decision not long after I’d decided to pay off my debt as quickly as possible. I chose to put as much of my discretionary funds toward paying off debt as soon as possible. My irregular expenses savings remains my only cash reserves at the moment, and although I rethink the issue every month or so, just to be sure nothing’s changed that might impact my decision, I believe I’ve made the right choice for me for the time being.

Truly, it’s somewhat of a gamble, but the payoff of getting out of debt sooner than I would have otherwise seems worth the risk to me.

Have you had to make a similar decision? What did you decide? Comments or questions are always welcome.

Why aren’t interest rates and amounts owed the most important factors?

First, interest rates and amounts owed do exclusively determine the amount of money you’ll ultimately be paying back. Time is a factor, but not in the same sense that interest rates and money owed are.

If you want to payoff your debt in a way that saves you the most money over the long term, based on your current situation, you need to choose to pay off your debts with the highest interest rates first. A higher interest rate means you pay back more dollar for dollar on a debt. If you owe $1,000 at a 10% interest rate, your monthly interest payment (using simple interest) is about $8.33. If you owe $1,000 at an 18% interest rate, your monthly interest payment is about $15. This is a simple way to decide what comes first in your debt payoff.

If you’re more interested in the motivational aspects of paying off debts quickly, you can start with the smaller amounts first and work your way up to the larger debts. This gives you a boost every time you pay something off, inspiring you to keep at it.

However, sometimes other issues come into play when you start working on your debt payoff plan. In fact, you should always consider other factors in your decision-making.

My problem

I have several smaller debts with low interest rates. I also have a few with larger balances that have higher interest rates.

My ideal plan would have been to pay off debt in a way that saves me the most money. I like money and I especially like it when I can keep as much of it as possible in my pockets.

My debts

The thing is, I would like to pay off the camper before the American Express bill because the interest rate is so much more favorable. However, with the current state of the economy and the ever-changing nature of credit card agreements, I worry that my American Express credit card terms will change drastically and unexpectedly and I’ll lose that lovely 3.99% interest rate until the balance is paid off. Then, depending on how high the rate jumps, any savings I could have accumulated by paying on the 8% debt first would be lost in a matter of months.

I have friends who are dealing with unscrupulous credit card companies right now and I have little faith in them myself these days. My biggest fear is that before the new credit card agreement rules go into effect later in the year, many credit card companies might try to take advantage of as many loopholes in the credit card agreements as possible to keep from having customers locked in with very favorable terms long-term.

Maybe I’m overly cynical, but I don’t think so. Do you?

All the reasons I mention above are reasons in favor of taking your entire financial picture into account when you start laying out your debt repayment plan or your debt snowball.

Arrange your payoffs to suit you and your needs and don’t worry so much about following any particular person’s specific method for deciding on a debt payoff order. As long as you’re paying something down with the intention of paying it off, you’re making progress!

We traded in my car for $6,500 (which we had the cash to pay off (about $4400)). We got that trade-in credit against a $12,500 used truck that has about 39,000 miles and is in excellent condition. The reason I’m not all up in arms about the truck with my husband is because I can easily see it as something we can keep longer term, not to mention that we traded in my car for it instead of his. We’re now down to two vehicles. Since my actual gas costs for commuting to my job are reimbursed, I won’t be spending any additional money on gas even though I now drive a vehicle that gets significantly less efficient gas mileage than my previous car.

Money-wise, we ended up with an auto loan of $6,500 or so at 4.79%. There’s no prepayment penalty so we let them make the loan for the standard term they wanted to make it at which was 4 years. I don’t really care, since I’m going to pay it off early anyway, but I like that I still have the option if I want to take it, to pay off a higher interest debt first, because this payment of $148 each month is much less than what my car payment was.

I have to sit down and rework my plans for paying off my debt now, but with the lower payment related to the lower interest rate on my home and the lower auto payment (but still a payment), I will have cash available to put towards other debts.

When I do that, I’ll be sure to post here.

As for the truck, I like it. I’ve never been the primary driver for a truck before and it’s an interesting experience. 

The car I owned before was the only vehicle I had ever bought new. I wouldn’t recommend that to anyone, but I have to say, I did like the car and the whole newness of it when I got it. Buying a new car doesn’t make a lot of financial sense though. I’ve also never done a trade in for a vehicle either, because usually you can get $1000+ more for it by selling it yourself than you can by trading it in. In our case this time, we got lucky. The dealer where we got this truck was going out of business because he was having too much trouble getting loans for people wanting to buy automobiles from him. That’s something to keep in mind. Right now is a great time to buy an automobile, if you can get the money you need for it.

Here are the highlights

1. Spent too much at Christmas and used my Discover card which I intended to pay off in full. I’ll still be able to do that, but it took some serious finagling and a stroke to luck.
2. Intended to refinance my home loan to take advantage of lower interest rates and get 10,000 cash out to pay for a truck we need.
3. Refinanced home loan but got no cash out.
4. Put the family truck up for sale because it can’t haul my RV camper long distances.
5. Prepared tax return so I would know what, if any, cash I could expect to get refunded.
6. Looking for a truck and a way to pay for it that won’t put me back in debt up to my eyeballs.

Christmas spending

I knew going into the holidays that I didn’t have enough money saved up for Christmas. I intended to cut way back on my spending this year, but when the numbers came in on my Discover card, it was clear that my spending hadn’t decreased at all. If anything, it went up. Take that on top of the $389+ I had just put on there for my refrigerator repair and my bill seemed overwhelming.

When I paid the first statement, I paid it in increments throughout the month until the full statement amount had been paid. I took the $389 from savings and the rest from my bonus and some overtime my husband worked. The dates crossed over onto two statements thank goodness, splitting the amount owed into two payments that wouldn’t cost me any interest since I wouldn’t be carrying a balance from one statement to the next. That left the next statement, which still came in at $1,118. Eeik!

So, lesson learned? Cash, cash, cash. I should have carried cash and stopped spending when I hit zero.

I’ve already talked to my husband and he agrees that this is what we’re going to do next year. We’ve also added $50 a month to our savings so we have the money when the time comes. That’s approximately $11.60 per week and we think we can handle that okay.

Refinanced home loan to save money

Our original plans when we started talking about the refinancing of our home loan was a simple re-fi to cut our interest rate. Then my husband started talking truck. Now, I understand the need for the truck. The truck we have won’t pull the camper more than a twenty or thirty miles before it starts acting up. It’s a 1994 model and it doesn’t have the power needed to handle the weight of the camper. I want to take some trips this year to some campgrounds that are farther from home. I mean, we bought the camper; we’re paying for it, and I want to use it.

But the numbers didn’t make sense and we had to sacrifice the dream of having a few extra dollars on our house payment and no other payments and a newer used truck.

The refinance of the principal only incurred no fees (at our local small-town bank) and our interest rate went from 7% to 5.75%. Before you mention that I could have gotten a better rate somewhere else, you might be right, but we’ve never had to have an appraisal and we paid $0 in fees.  This is just a 2 year balloon based on our original construction loan. We won’t qualify to get a traditional mortgage with all the associated fees and hassles until we finish our master bathroom’s shower and some additional work on our staircase. I like having my loan at my local small-town bank and will probably keep it there for as long as possible.

The refinance to get cash back, however, was a different story. The rocky economy has made even my small-town bank nervous. To get the $10,000 cash out, we would have had to get an appraisal and pay fees and it would have cost about $1,500 total. Not worth it in any universe. I want to reduce my debt not add to it, if that’s at all possible!

Finally, my lender asked if I wanted my first payment due in January or February. I said February. And just like that, I had the money to pay my Discover card. :-)

Buying a truck

Okay, so I’m not sure how this fits with my determination to get debt free forever, but here you have it. We need a truck. We’re going to buy used, and since my husband is handy with the autos, we’re hoping to get the best deal possible. But that still means $6,000 to $8,000 we need to come up with.

$500  – Tax refund

$1,000 – Bonus (fingers crossed for more!)

$2,400 – Truck we’re selling (if we get within a few hundred of our asking price)

$145 – Difference in old house payment and new house payment

Finally, we’re going to get rid of our third car. At the moment we have two small cars. One, my husband drives to work (80 mile commute, 5 days, 34 mpg) and one, I drive (112 mile commute, 2 days, 34 mpg — BUT I get reimbursed for gas based on actual cost). Two days a week, I’ll drive the truck to work. My husband will start driving my car, since we’re going to sell his. We should come out with no changes to our gas budget, since my car is the family car and will remain the vehicle of choice for weekend and evening driving.

So, that gives me the last bit of money we need to pay for the truck.

$2,000 – Car we’re selling

Closer than ever to living debt-free

Despite all that’s happened in the last few months, I feel closer than ever to living debt-free.

Going forward, that $145 difference in our house payment is going to go toward one of my current debts (see my NetworthIQ for details of my debts). I’m excited. Once we have this truck, we’ll have everything in place to start moving forward, and barring any emergencies that we aren’t yet financially prepared for, we’ll have time to start saving now for future purchases.

Following that definition, I just went into debt again after getting out from under my cell phone contract. I say this because when I sign the contract, I’ve just made an obligation for myself to pay a certain amount of money to Verizon for a certain length of time. It’s a debt and there’s really no other way to look at it. Other than death or other dire disaster, I’m probably not going to be able to get out of paying out that contract.

So, this week, I re-upped my contract for my cell phone for another two years to get a new phone. I could afford to pay for a phone, but it wouldn’t have been a very nice phone, or I could have kept my other phone and been contract free. However, my husband’s phone was broken. He could still use it, but it is on it’s last leg and I doubt it would have lasted another month before the entire think broke the rest of the way in half. We talked seriously about going with a tracfone or other pay as you go phone. We could have. But I drive long distances to work and so does he and I want to be able to use my Bluetooth headset so I can talk to friends and family on my way home. It’s expensive to buy those kinds of phones outright.

Ultimately we decided to stick with Verizon and sign up for another two years. I got a really, really nice phone for $0 and my husband got a nice phone for $28.88 at Wal-mart. We did have to pay an upgrade fee we wouldn’t have paid through Verizon with an over-the-phone or online upgrade, but the price difference was staggering at a net of $51.10. (See my note at the bottom of this post for details of the price difference.)

I question whether it makes sense to think of debt this way and if that means I can never have a contract for a service if I want to live entirely debt free. What do you think? Should those of us who want to live a cash based life avoid all contracts that obligate us to pay future amounts for services, even if those services are pseudo-necessary?

What do I mean by pseudo-necessary? I mean things like cell phone service, where I could certainly live without it, but don’t want to. I’ve had break-downs before where I had to walk to a house and make a phone call. I got stuck on a college campus when a tropical storm was only hours away from hitting the area where I live (very, very rare, but it happened that night!), and I’ve had to catch a ride with a stranger when my car broke down too far from anyone’s home to walk there. I have kids these days, and I’m not nearly as comfortable with the idea of those kinds of incidents happening to me while they’re with me.

Does it make sense to balk at the contract when I’m getting the free phone that has all the perks, when I don’t plan to drop my service unless the direst of circumstances hit anyway? Am I going too far in my definition of debt, or not far enough? What are you thoughts about this?

(Despite what we were told by the online salespeople for Verizon, Wal-mart was by far the cheapest phone provider with our upgrade/contract renewal. The thing is, Verizon Online was going to charge us $69.99 + $49.00 = $119.98 after rebate for the phones. Wal-mart charged $28.88 + $20 upgrade fee + $0 + $20.00 upgrade fee = $68.88 for the exact same phones. Walmart.com doesn’t seem to have the same prices.)

Although the salesman claimed their credit put them in a perfect position to get a great deal on financing, their inability to pay the taxes (9.25%) and a down payment meant their monthly payment wouldn’t be as low as the advertised price.

Of course, my in-laws aren’t that easily fooled—and they’re on a fixed income. They passed on the vehicle.

Anyone not quite as strong might have let themselves end up with a loan payment larger than what they wanted or needed. These kinds of advertising tactics are meant to reel you in. Once they have your attention, they’re hoping you’ll have trouble taking control of the situation and walking away when your expectations aren’t met.

My mother-in-law was most insulted when the salespeople came back from calculating the monthly payment after she complained about their deceptive advertising and said something along the lines of “I have good news! We got your payment down to $229.” (The advertised monthly payment was $199.) She had a set number in mind, and she didn’t let the salespeople’s fake enthusiasm at getting her a “lower” payment fool her into making a commitment she didn’t want to make when she set out that morning on her car hunt.

No, my in-laws still haven’t found the vehicle they want and can afford, but they’re taking their time and I have confidence that when they do, they won’t be paying more than they’re comfortable paying.

Avoid spending more than you want

1. Set your price before you go.
2. Stick to your price even if the salespeople try to generate a sense of panic by telling you how time sensitive the deal is, or how you’ll never get this good of a deal again.
3. Be prepared to walk away if the salespeople won’t or can’t meet your price.
4. Walk away if you feel panic or nervousness setting in. It’s for your own good. You should only shop when you’re calm and in control.

It actually feels very good to walk away when you aren’t given what you want. The feeling of power and control can become addictive.

Have you ever walked away from a large purchase, or been convinced to buy something you weren’t sure you wanted? How did you deal with the situation?