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		<title>Is legislation really the right answer when you don’t want to read your contract?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personal responsibility means we have to know what we're signing. So why should the government be responsible for picking up the slack where lenders are concerned? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: I started this post a long time ago and I&#8217;m just now getting around to finishing it. :)</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/25427-pay-off-your-mortgage-early-for-a-fee-rep-marcia-fudge">http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/25427-pay-off-your-mortgage-early-for-a-fee-rep-marcia-fudge</a> (I even left a comment back when it was freshly posted.)</p>
<p>I know I ranted already once on the blog, but I read this the other day and it hit me wrong. I already worry that there&#8217;s too much government interference in my life, but to know that they&#8217;re trying to take away all my responsibilities doesn&#8217;t sit well with me. I have the right to be stupid sometimes. In their effort to save people from lenders who might be trying to take advantage of others&#8217; refusal to take responsibility for their own mistakes (such as not reading or understanding the fine print on a loan), they&#8217;re taking away my rights, little by little.</p>
<p>I do believe it&#8217;s unethical to offer loans to people and then encourage them to skim over the documents so they can be signed faster. However, I also believe this is where we have to be assertive and stand up for our rights to fully read and understand every contract we sign.<span id="more-131"></span></p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re likely to get a few evil-eyes when you take an extra half-hour to read the documents the lender wants to summarize to you in 30 seconds of chatter. That&#8217;s not your problem.</p>
<p>You have to be willing to walk away if that lender is behaving in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable. I&#8217;ve done it before, when I was negotiating the price on a car purchase, and it was a very trying experience. The salesman/lender (who was the same person in this instance) kept trying to question my offer because if I could make a certain monthly payment, then how could I not afford the car if they stretched out the loan term so that the payment stayed the same. He was pushy and his backhanded questioning of my financial know-how made me angry.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll tell you this: When I walked away, I had never felt more powerful. It was a heady experience. And before I left, the manager of the dealership tried to get me to take the car at MY original offer of $4,000 less than the asking price. I refused. No deal is good enough for me to put up with less than ethical and courteous service from the get-go.</p>
<p>The point is, we should all be willing to walk away when we don&#8217;t understand what we&#8217;re being asked to sign. We can&#8217;t expect others to pass laws to protect us from our own laziness and fear of messing up a good deal by balking at something in a contract. Once you put your name on that contract, you&#8217;ve ethically obligated yourself to the terms even if those terms suck as nothing has ever sucked before. Seriously.</p>
<p>And allowing government legislation to continue to pick up the slack where personal responsibility is concerned is dangerous in the extreme.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Is a cell phone contract debt?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is debt? Do contracts that create obligations to pay qualify as debt?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I define debt very simply. Debt is an obligation I have,  to pay something to someone.</p>
<p>Following that definition, I just went into debt again after getting out from under my cell phone contract. I say this because when I sign the contract, I&#8217;ve just made an obligation for myself to pay a certain amount of money to Verizon for a certain length of time. It&#8217;s a debt and there&#8217;s really no other way to look at it. Other than death or other dire disaster, I&#8217;m probably not going to be able to get out of paying out that contract.<span id="more-46"></span></p>
<p>So, this week, I re-upped my contract for my cell phone for another two years to get a new phone. I could afford to pay for a phone, but it wouldn&#8217;t have been a very nice phone, or I could have kept my other phone and been contract free. However, my husband&#8217;s phone was broken. He could still use it, but it is on it&#8217;s last leg and I doubt it would have lasted another month before the entire think broke the rest of the way in half. We talked seriously about going with a tracfone or other pay as you go phone. We could have. But I drive long distances to work and so does he and I want to be able to use my Bluetooth headset so I can talk to friends and family on my way home. It&#8217;s expensive to buy those kinds of phones outright.</p>
<p>Ultimately we decided to stick with Verizon and sign up for another two years. I got a really, really nice phone for $0 and my husband got a nice phone for $28.88 at Wal-mart. We did have to pay an upgrade fee we wouldn&#8217;t have paid through Verizon with an over-the-phone or online upgrade, but the price difference was staggering at a net of $51.10. (See my note at the bottom of this post for details of the price difference.)</p>
<p>I question whether it makes sense to think of debt this way and if that means I can never have a contract for a service if I want to live entirely debt free. What do you think? Should those of us who want to live a cash based life avoid all contracts that obligate us to pay future amounts for services, even if those services are pseudo-necessary?</p>
<p>What do I mean by <em>pseudo-necessary</em>? I mean things like cell phone service, where I could certainly live without it, but don&#8217;t want to. I&#8217;ve had break-downs before where I had to walk to a house and make a phone call. I got stuck on a college campus when a tropical storm was only hours away from hitting the area where I live (very, very rare, but it happened that night!), and I&#8217;ve had to catch a ride with a stranger when my car broke down too far from anyone&#8217;s home to walk there. I have kids these days, and I&#8217;m not nearly as comfortable with the idea of those kinds of incidents happening to me while they&#8217;re with me.</p>
<p>Does it make sense to balk at the contract when I&#8217;m getting the free phone that has all the perks, when I don&#8217;t plan to drop my service unless the direst of circumstances hit anyway? Am I going too far in my definition of debt, or not far enough? What are you thoughts about this?</p>
<p>(Despite what we were told by the online salespeople for Verizon, Wal-mart was by far the cheapest phone provider with our upgrade/contract renewal. The thing is, Verizon Online was going to charge us $69.99 + $49.00 = $119.98 after rebate for the phones. Wal-mart charged $28.88 + $20 upgrade fee + $0 + $20.00 upgrade fee = $68.88 for the exact same phones. <a href="http://linksynergy.walmart.com/fs-bin/click?id=tnQkDkm6L70&amp;offerid=100143&amp;type=10&amp;tmpid=1082&amp;RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.walmart.com%252F">Walmart.com</a> doesn&#8217;t seem to have the same prices.)</p>
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